To clerify the issue concerning Hercules. By the time poets were writing about herculers the legend had grown to the point where the real hercules is lost in the tales woven from his legend.
For instance:Magara his first wife is said in the later tales to have been murdered by hercules. However on closer inspection one realises that tales of her serviving and taking another husband exist.
in a manner similar to the tale of the devil, Hera is accused of hating hercules duie to his illagitamate beginnings. However earlier tales include the father in a fashion similar to joseph , though the birth was after consumation of the two prior to the conception of the demi-god. It seems someone added the abscence of Hercules father to portray more accurately the divine birth that acuated hercules, but hercxules is his fathers child.Alcmene was his mother and Amphitryo her husband.
He is both the son of zues and hera, her gift. Th e anger assocxiated to her anger is the pathos that was necessary to make hercules immortal. To the priomiative ancient greeks this pathos turned into a satanic hera acting out the role of nemisis.
Magaras children with hercules were destroyed by a arrow of thought as thier rearing made them resemble other religions not his own. Hera caused this realisation but making him baligerat in realising that they were still his products. Here the religions the children stand for die not the real children. This may also represent one of the first tales of hercules woven into the poets aristophanian epics of hercules that were more drama than truth.
the twelve labours hercules is forced to do by appolo for twelve years as The king of Tiryns was Eurystheus servant, may rep[resent the 12 epochs of hercules that existaed after the one who married mnagara. The poets wove many desperate tales of hercules into one drama.
finally hercules second wife Deianira, got a balm from a centure with the promise of inducing love in hercules and this caused pain and burning that forced hercules to seek death on a funeral pire prior to asdcending to heaven or mount olympus in his body. Thus the poets m,ake him immortal anbd transcendant in his body.
the truth of the story seems conveluted in this tale. Hourses only appear with the second wife and the first part of the tale predates troy, in one tale thesius is the friend of Hercules. This most likely is the Hercules used to draw the figure of the second wife.
when I was writing my mrp, the idea of hercules catebasis, descent into hades, was part of the tales I found. In fact the idea of hercules being the kingf of the greeks was told to me by God in the ecyclopedia britannica, I have been unable to find the tale elsewhere except as excepts in side mentioned. Meaning the primitive greeks of the first hercules knew he was thier divine king as was christ to the jews. He wasa political and founded the olympics, some say palos created them, but the use of them to unify the greeks was hercules for sure.
" Zues wanted a king to unify all the greeks so he created hercules, hercules was a political hero and unified the greeks" Hercules unified them politically by offering games to have the people compete using thier military skills.
All this was done without feats of prowess or strength. The legendary strength was a result of this peace keeping and olympic games. The hebrews call the greeks the olive tree. Hercules [planted a olive tree in olympia to be used tpo crown the winners of events of the games. Unlike the poets who dramatise ancient stories with what made hercules less what he was, the story I was given by god and this is why he entrusted me with it and washed away the confusion the greeks had concerning God and such heroes. Hercules killed no one and in fact was more philosophjer than fighter, though a later hercules may have over thrown an earlier hercules product , like the systems enouch judged of his own angels set in his own city based on the city builder enouch being the same one who walked with God. He was tranfigured through a potion given to his wife by a centure and a holy pyre that caused a fision of his body similar to christ,
this talke is over 40000 years old if not older and by the time of the plays written about hercules in socrates time, the many hercules melded into one and fantasy took boring stories of divine heroesism and made them exciting drams of social operas. this was to draw in crowds not portray hercules correctly. Finally God as zues gave me the truth of his and heras son, and I had the ability not to surcome to the poets that even socrates says hide the truith behind poetic facades.
peace
in fact, the unification of the greeks, the olympics and the feats of creating a natiuon as a first king wasa hercules isa cpommon folk lore concerning hercules
For instance:Magara his first wife is said in the later tales to have been murdered by hercules. However on closer inspection one realises that tales of her serviving and taking another husband exist.
in a manner similar to the tale of the devil, Hera is accused of hating hercules duie to his illagitamate beginnings. However earlier tales include the father in a fashion similar to joseph , though the birth was after consumation of the two prior to the conception of the demi-god. It seems someone added the abscence of Hercules father to portray more accurately the divine birth that acuated hercules, but hercxules is his fathers child.Alcmene was his mother and Amphitryo her husband.
He is both the son of zues and hera, her gift. Th e anger assocxiated to her anger is the pathos that was necessary to make hercules immortal. To the priomiative ancient greeks this pathos turned into a satanic hera acting out the role of nemisis.
Magaras children with hercules were destroyed by a arrow of thought as thier rearing made them resemble other religions not his own. Hera caused this realisation but making him baligerat in realising that they were still his products. Here the religions the children stand for die not the real children. This may also represent one of the first tales of hercules woven into the poets aristophanian epics of hercules that were more drama than truth.
the twelve labours hercules is forced to do by appolo for twelve years as The king of Tiryns was Eurystheus servant, may rep[resent the 12 epochs of hercules that existaed after the one who married mnagara. The poets wove many desperate tales of hercules into one drama.
finally hercules second wife Deianira, got a balm from a centure with the promise of inducing love in hercules and this caused pain and burning that forced hercules to seek death on a funeral pire prior to asdcending to heaven or mount olympus in his body. Thus the poets m,ake him immortal anbd transcendant in his body.
the truth of the story seems conveluted in this tale. Hourses only appear with the second wife and the first part of the tale predates troy, in one tale thesius is the friend of Hercules. This most likely is the Hercules used to draw the figure of the second wife.
when I was writing my mrp, the idea of hercules catebasis, descent into hades, was part of the tales I found. In fact the idea of hercules being the kingf of the greeks was told to me by God in the ecyclopedia britannica, I have been unable to find the tale elsewhere except as excepts in side mentioned. Meaning the primitive greeks of the first hercules knew he was thier divine king as was christ to the jews. He wasa political and founded the olympics, some say palos created them, but the use of them to unify the greeks was hercules for sure.
" Zues wanted a king to unify all the greeks so he created hercules, hercules was a political hero and unified the greeks" Hercules unified them politically by offering games to have the people compete using thier military skills.
All this was done without feats of prowess or strength. The legendary strength was a result of this peace keeping and olympic games. The hebrews call the greeks the olive tree. Hercules [planted a olive tree in olympia to be used tpo crown the winners of events of the games. Unlike the poets who dramatise ancient stories with what made hercules less what he was, the story I was given by god and this is why he entrusted me with it and washed away the confusion the greeks had concerning God and such heroes. Hercules killed no one and in fact was more philosophjer than fighter, though a later hercules may have over thrown an earlier hercules product , like the systems enouch judged of his own angels set in his own city based on the city builder enouch being the same one who walked with God. He was tranfigured through a potion given to his wife by a centure and a holy pyre that caused a fision of his body similar to christ,
this talke is over 40000 years old if not older and by the time of the plays written about hercules in socrates time, the many hercules melded into one and fantasy took boring stories of divine heroesism and made them exciting drams of social operas. this was to draw in crowds not portray hercules correctly. Finally God as zues gave me the truth of his and heras son, and I had the ability not to surcome to the poets that even socrates says hide the truith behind poetic facades.
peace
in fact, the unification of the greeks, the olympics and the feats of creating a natiuon as a first king wasa hercules isa cpommon folk lore concerning hercules
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