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Anglican wisdom from a wise Angalcan friend, minister and father. "Church Of Nigeria Communications Office" View Contact Details Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:56:16 +0100

Dear Val,

Wrong quotes. Genesis 6: 6 says something different from yours. Also Christ was not greatest son of God. He is the ONLY begotten SON of God. All others were created and so cannot be compared with the creator. I'd advise you get a Bible and read the Gospel according to Mark and also that according to John. Your entire write-up will have to change.

The Lord bless you as you write about the Truth that sets free. Amen. Rev. Canon AkinTunde PopoolaChurch Of Nigeria Communications DepartmentEpiscopal House, 24, Douala Street, Wuse zone5'Abuja, Nigeria
To read this comment within the context of our song, yes the only begotten is Christ, begotten not created and incarnated in all the mature offspring of God. Even the nazarene is created as procreated in time, all offspring are, including subscriprt gs..
I stand corrected Christ is one of the greatest, if not the greatest.
peace God bless A difference,the Jews say timeless God beyond form (formless form). manifestations of god or aspects of God in time. We say father who is timeless but can manifest himself timelessly and holy spirit that is in time yet can act timelessly. Offspring who is incarnated yet in time and timeless. each is unknowable in their entirety and knowable as they manifest. see the same God spoken of differently.see why God loves all the ways people talk about him. Wouldn't you.God walks with plants too the Buddhist say one day God walked or the universe developed the rice.hmm plant spirits, well all things have quantum shift thus all things have a spirit. Respect it.remember the Jews believed the moon and the sun debated over who should shine moreiching is the confusion book of incantations. there were originally 6 books the book of music disappeared.some Buddhist in China use itching spells, it is forbidden to Buddhists but not daoist and Confucianism, its origin. Confucianism comes from the name of a great scholar in china. it is a scholars movement that predates Confucianism, thus celestial emperor(God) stems from this movement.. daoism is about longevity and Harmony with the world. divine grace meant living longmany Chinese monks eat and fast to prolong lifea Jane once said to me, you cannot ride more than one horse at a time, I replied with a chariots you can ride many horses or like in a circus you came ride on the backs of twothe silks humble themselves before God by sitting on the floor, this also reflects their peasant beginnings: King you sit high up where only God should, for I kneel and bow only to Godpraise them allPraise Adonais( aspect of mercy and Roman God of beauty, both were connected to jealousy)Taoism says live well die well sex well and be good, good thinking. love you valthe divine song can be played on the famous wood wind instruments of aboriginals to unlock secretsmeso American gods include dinosaurs. dragons baby. to finish off the ideas concerning the trinity. The part of God that is incarnated returns to the father. It becomes one with God yet it also simultaneously remain es separate yet one with it. The only begotten in carnates in others as God and its self. when it incarnates in others one is one with God and the only begotten. Finally each avatar is one with god yet remains the themselves. in the same fashion each avatar incarnates in people as themselves and as the only begotten which is the incarnating force of God and God that they are one with always. Even when they leave the body, part of them remains as does they only begotten and God himself. Thus when one dies each part of God returns to its source and merges fully with it, while. God, the only begotten(that which remains simultaneously one with God and separate) becomes one with the released incarnative force also remaining separate from its source yet one with it. This occurs for God the only begotten and the avatars themselves respectfully. Each avatar remains one with the source of that avatar-ship. in other words a part of God incarnates in people either through his touch directly, which is having placed the only begotten directly in you, or through an avatar incarnating in you. part of it is always the source of that avatar-ship and returns to the source. Once individuated part of it remains separate both as the incarnative force and the avatar, yet they are all one with God. The new avatar always is one with its sources.Christ Immanuel is one with the only begotten and the father(and mother) always and all those who wore him, became his avatar. for another day.when Zoroaster looked into the sky he saw chaos and order,. he also saw the eventual end of chaos into order, not two Gods but two aspects of God who were gods.the Parsee's are Zoroaster'sOdin enlightened himself ( do not try this at home) through pain.he poked an eye out and hung himself upside down.in the end there is a great battle on Ragnarok the shacking rock or moving rock Earth baby.then two people of their line remain to reprocreated their line.there is an arch flood story in Greek myth, two people exit from the arch. hmm, man and a women. Since the idea of dinosaurs has caught your attention let me elucidate. I once heard that dinosaur bones were mistaken as dragons and myths were woven about them. People even worshipped them. Well there is a little more to the story than that. The first arch angelSamael ( he who poisons to strength God, he who proves lip service to god is not good enough , see Jobe) is a dragon. The first arch angel is a dinosaur, one of seven intelligent races, see Revelations. Well there is the one head we thought went extinct, another is the avians and so on. The grey aliens are actually dinosaurs; Intelligent dinosaurs still alive yet, living as a kabalist might say, on a parallel dimension of earth. See the movie Roswell(docudrama not TV show) in which the son of one of the captains who found the flying saucer is told by US secret service men that the grey aliens come from earth and now live on a parallel dimension of earth that is a reflection of here. Rabbis say at least one heaven is a reflection of here. Basic string theory. Greys are real and there is a lot of biblical proof for these creatures. Satan is: he who acts like God, not he who is God (Micheal) or he who poisons God like a test of faith( snake handlers?) Satan is also a dragon and is not the devil. Satan is The one who sits around the foot of the tree of life placed there by Zeus to tend the golden apple( sometimes the fruit of knowledge is called an apple because of this myth, it is a fig like the Botti( Buddha sat under before enlightenment and a fig that grows in Israel. Christ once cursed such a tree in the new testament) In Greek myth, Zeus( God not Dion) in a garden placed a dragon around the tree of golden apples( not real apples but like earth peoples that are potatoes a golden apple is a fruit unto itself). If eaten these fruits make you immortal and heal people. This is where Lilith the avatar of the snake God is mistaken as the devil dragon by Greeks interpreting Jewish and christian theology through the eyes of Greek myth. Serpent(Lilith) is Adams first girlfriend, back then sex meant marriages as proven by the Greek term Gamos which means sex and marriage). To get to the fruit you must pass the dragons test.For the tree of knowledge the serpent simply says you might not die Adam so eat, God says you might die so do not eat. Well he did not die but neither did God lie because to Adam God said you might die not that you will would, God allowed for the slight chance that Adam might be strong enough to live eating the fruit to be allowed to breed and be remembers as a great ( an Elohim). Elohim meets Elohim in the garden. Hmm MM However, Adam hid from God and thus did not pass the nest test to eat the fruit of life, though even a chance there existed that the fruit might still be eaten by him at a later date, but alas it was not.Giants like Goliath are from earlier blood lines that the of Adam. Babylonians refer to earlier humans around them as giants. PS: Ever notice in Mark it says the Messiah is here and it is INTERPRETED as CHRIST. Theseus Greek moses and Savior from the Egyptian divine Pharaoh myth, bye bye Sphinx. Answer to riddle dis-empowers the confusion of the Minoan Semitic people once colony of Egypt. Bye bye bull riders and bull strength of Egypt. I just realized why biblical scholars interpret Elohim just as sons of God. From the Greek myth that Zeus made a garden with the golden apple, in king James Elohim the god, the voice of god who enters the garden to kick Adam out, who meats Elohim(Adam who is the son of god) is the voice of God or one of his avatars. Well God warns Adam, Elohim kick him out of the garden. thus El was God and Elohim was always son of God(avatar).thus the virgin marry thing is even broken by the early christians, they read Elohim as not being God the father and made Elohim completely Greek myth, for Zeus(Dion and Elohim) impregnated marry as he did Theseus' mother. thus the sons of god took wives. However in the garden God walked in as the voice of God and God himself, avatar\rs work here.hmm mmm hmmm valboth interpretations are real. Remembering that the sons of God can be read as taking one wife, son of God took one wifeHere is the churches save:When God, Elohim meaning simply God saw that the all the daughters of Adam were fair, meaning just, simply God took a wife.food for thought. remember the Jews read it singular the king James interpreters read it plural, I read it as both. Valsee somehow all this is one program no matter what variable you put into a word.see my first interpretation is the best. Synthesis. best way to make sense of it is look at all the examples that fit this.Time efficient (perfected like an engineer.) As an engineer would do it There is a time range(R) that marks the plains existence (P) and one for each dimension (D).There is your point (F) or any point in time/space (f2) and there is the co-efficient of time produced by the two fixed times(c).Therefore Total time (TT) = R X (C/ F)R= P/Dc=F/ F2 if P=4D=2F=8F2=2 R=4/2 Therefore R=2 c= 8 /2 Therefore c=4 tt= 2 x 2(4/8) therefore tt= 2x 2 x 1/2 therefore tt=1 the two point co-efficient spoken about before takes into account relativity.an object travelling at light speed has less time relative to the gravity well of its origin.however two objects travelling from each other at the same speed remain at the same time signature.see the limit for time according to Einstein, well plain time, is light speed thus travelling at this speed causes one to have less timethus clock time is equal to gravity times the tt divided by its fixed time, which is based on the gravity affecting it divided by the inverse of the speed it is going effected, by how close it is to the speed of light.love youValbut Einstein said the laws of physics do not hold after the speed of light special theory of relativity.Tesla calls Einstein childish because space and time are not the same However both are brilliant people.Tesla was Yugoslavian. he worked on the Philadelphia experiment,a shit using Tesla tech was teleported to Norfolk harbour was properly sighted by the British navy then teleported back to Philadelphiaeach object has its own time outside of the time barrier everything got unstuck, well the time dimension Tesla crossedto make sure everything does not meld together one needs something to make each thing stick to its own time when entering that dimension. our body and brains are also different thus we need one stabilizer to maintain our coherency and sanityeveryone on the boat at Philadelphia went insane and people melded into the ship Space is temporally indexed but a rock in the middle of a mountain has more time than one at the top, yet the proportion is not equal to its space, consider a rock with a gravity whole beside, on in normal gravity different time and space but the proportion is not direct as one would assume.Space is the x-y-z axis. In fact two objects can share the same space but be in different times. ValGod be with us all

the val save..Read plurals as plurals and singulars as singulars. For example, El is singular: God. Elohim is plural God(s) the different religions are not only compatible, but complimentary. we are one, the same yet have unique difference meant to enrich our unified human culture. To read Elohim as simply the singular is wrong, Orwin was not wrong, it simply means God as a plural. Wives is plural as well, not singular. The Christians are wrong to have read this as one.issue closed.peacePraise God

Todays thoughtssomething about monotheistism we will all agree with.Your holinessyou see the father and mother are variables, when you put any (G)god in the parent part(father) of the trinity, the offspring are the children of that divine parentage.the holy spirit is the powers and energy the parents through God can afford their avatars, thrones or seats or offspring(son of); What is bestowed on them by God through the parent, even if that parent is God or a grandchild avatar: the avatar of an avatar to make the son(offspring avatar) a father(parent) is to give the offspring a similar idea and mechanism to God the parent. Thus, if God is the variable used for the father then the sons ( and daughters) are the offspring of God(sons and daughters of God). and the holy spirit is as we know it. Of course, each is much more than this and what we know of them. To make the parents Christ or any avatar is to make the offspring their avatars, IE the son of Christ, the son of Adam , the son of crisna and/or so on. Each bestows a particular grace and power based on its link and particular oneness with God and any avatars that act like a parent(or grand parent) for it.For instance Christ is the son of God and the son of Adam, thus he received grace from God directly and could send(bring down) and use the powers of the holy spirit as God, though the spirit was sourced in God and can be used only as God allows. This rule also holds true for the avatars of avatars(grand offspring): God dictates how the parent avatars work and how their energies are transmitted to their offspring(avatar or throne). Thus, Immanuel also had powers and energies through Adam. God made sure each of his children and grand children were special and had a special link with the parent avatar they are one with making each unique and special: one with God yet separate and different. See why believing in the many gods and, first and foremost, in God makes one very powerful.This is something we can all agree on;We can all agree with this supposition:Christ dies ascends unto the father, becomes one with the entirety of the essence and then becomes individuated and returns to teach. Following this he goes to heaven. The dead he resurrected go to heaven or another plain. No normal mortal saw the people Christ resurrected after his Resurrection. Where did these people go? They were resurrected into heaven, as Chrysostom says in the Easter liturgy of the orthodox, Adam and eve and all their descendants are redeemed by Christ and resurrected into heaven( see Greek christian orthodox Easter liturgy). every time Christ returns unto the father he is seated to his right, one with the father as an equal part of the trinity, yet separate, this is as I described before.The A-W is the son of God and its avatars( the ones who are one with its essence and incarnated in them). it also has a body of its own, see the beginning of Revelations, this body is the only begotten that all avatars of God are one with For the logos was with God, it was God, yet it was separate from God and God sent it into the darkness yet the darkness did not recognize it Thus God sends the logos and only begotten.All avatars share . share in and can manifest on its own.see Revelations.Theosis is sharing in the divinity of Christ. Being Christ's avatar, or the offspring of Christ and grand child of God is sharing the divinity of the Nazarene and through him the only begotten(this is why Christ the Nazarene who is a particular manifestation and the only begotten have the same name.). To be Christ's avatar , Christ must judge you as being worthy of his avatar-ship, God does the same, yet when Christ does it you end up in new Jerusalem where there is no death. Well one has to pass everyone's test mentioned in Revelations, wear all the crowns of all the religions9 the rider marked as the logos of logos in Revelations), respect all these crowns equally and pass Christ's judgement to get to become immortal, Christ(the Nazarene and through him the only begotten) avatar and pass final judgement. All religions have their own Christ, only begotten avatar and have their equivalent to the Nazarene and by respecting Jesus Christ are judged and brought to their religion's holy city(new new deli?). This is why we must respect them to pass our judgement, do not worship part of Christ or God but the entirety of its Essenes , grace and manifestations. One can pass many such judgements and judge's test to become many avatars, including God's avatar directly, and become one and present in many, if not all holy (spiritual) cities..peace.valtheosis receives its energies from Both God and from Christ who intercedes for us, or is the hypothesis between us and God.

Praise GodPlease recall two biblical sections worth mentioning. Genesis 6:6 which makes mention of many sons of God and the daughters of man. Of course all the sons of God share the same incarnated son of God. Begotten not created and incarnated in Jesus Christ. There is only one begotten son of God, yet many manifestations. Adam is called a son of God.As well, in the psalms there is mention of many gods who are ruled my the one God. All these gods share in the same incarnate force of God.

Elohim can mean God or god. It can mean son of God or better yet child of God( in the masculine). Finally Elohim can mean judge. If one synthesis these meanings, one derives what Christians call the son of God. This part of the trinity is God, is the child or son of God and as Revelations states a judge. Elohim is all these things at once. In the creed Elohim is incarnated in Jesus Christ. Elohim is begotten not created before all ages and time. Elohim is the part of God that incarnates in bodies or people. Each child of God is an avatar of that part of God. Furthermore Elohim can also mean angel. Each avatar is a messenger of the logos of God contained in them Christ , Adam , Enoch, Noah and the many gods, mentioned in psalms, share in the incarnate force of the one God and thus are angels. Christ speaks the words of God, Enoch brings a message from God to humanity and certain other avatars. Thus, the elitism of Elohim is that of the divinity they have reached or posses. This is not a political stratification based on class, but rather, difference based on divine state and grace. Evidently the Christians use Elohim to represent all its meanings at once. Christ's title of son of God comes from Genesis. Enoch is said to have metamorphosed into Metatron in the 3rd book of Enoch. Metatron is an angel, God, judge and a child of God, esp if Metatron is Enoch. We are all children of God though only a few are Elohim. Enoch spiritually grew up to become a Elohim.The Talmud comments that God chastised the angels for cheering when the Egyptians drowned in the red sea. "Are these not my(God's) children as well?".Elohim may mean the mature children of God whereas we are all children of God waiting to grow up into adults(Elohim).

Answers to Questions

1. Proud fathers always want their children to be better then them.Trying to equal Christ and be his better is an outstanding goal. To be more virtuous and intelligent means trying to best the best. Even if you are like me on skates and dream of being better than Wayne Gretzky that dream promotes good behavior and a strong will to be the best you can be. This also suggests that you will have to be more virtuous and good than Christ. Not easy, but an amazing goal. Christ’s work would be fruitful if everyone had such goals. 2. Could Er be the first Greek and of the bloodline of Adam? No because this supposition is not backed up by science. The Greeks predate Adam of the Garden of Eden, thus, how does the name Er appear in Luke's genealogy? Furthermore, every male that descended from Adam must have had a wife who was a female descended of Adam. Now one of the powers Adam may have had was longevity. His descendants lived about a thousand years, each descendent living for different numbers of years. All other normal humans from other bloodlines that predating Adam lived a normal life span (at most about 120 years). God and the weakening of the genes caused Adams bloodline to equalize with those around him. Interbreeding caused a diminishing of Adam's descendant’s gene pool. I will only be in your air: the breaths you take, for 120 years. Since Buddha refers to a flood on the astral plain in the Dominate and the water Noah saw was a few cubits high and covered mountains many cubits high the water reported to have covered the land could not have made those mountains physically disappear. This water that was on the astral plain extinguished peoples spiritual fires and as Christ relight everyone after the three timeless days following his death, Christ’s relighting of peoples spiritual; fire is reenacted by Orthodox Christians every Easter when at twelve o'clock Saturday night, Easter Sunday mourning they turn the lights off and blow out the candles. The priest lights a candle and from that one candle everyone lights a candle and holds it in their hand till the end of the liturgy. People do light candles from the people in front of them till the flame spreads to everyone holding a candle at the ceremony. Noah the avatar relights everyone in the same way Christ did. Noah relight everyone after the flood, the animals that accompanied him relight every other animal. Thus the bloodline of Adam concern is not pertinent in this regard, no one died because of the flood. The Cabala calls Noah’s experience a destruction of a world and a creation of a new one. If Kane married a daughter three or more generations removed from Adam after producing children with a human daughter predating Adam then he could marry without any genealogical discrepancies or marriage problems. However, The daughters born onto each character in the genealogy of Adam in genesis and Luke are not mentioned in the bible. The sons of God marry daughters of Adam. Unless one assumes Adam of the garden is the first person, AND THE BIBLE CLEARLY STATES MEN AND WOMEN PREDATE ADAM OF THE GARDEN, one would interpreter the passage in Genesis referring to the daughters of Adam as the daughters of Adam and eve of the garden. Since the number of daughters Adam had was not mentioned and all world religion allows fourth cosines to marry, Kane marries a third or fourth cosine. Living over 900 allows one lots of time to accomplish this task of waiting and marrying a distant cosine and thus maintaining hereditary diversity and cultural rules of incest. Thus each male born of this bloodline maintain the descendants rule in Judaism that ever Jew's linage is drawn through the mother.

Since Er is not the first Greek due to the time he appears in the history dated by Luke’s genealogy. Er must not be the Er mentioned in the myth of Er, though he could be. Luke’s Er might be a grand son of a Greek whose daughter married Er's father who is mentioned in Luke. The grandson would be named after the grandfather and the Greek name thus would appears in Luke’s genealogy. No problems. The daughters of man were the descendants of Adam as humans already existed prior to Adam of the garden and these earlier humans as you recall populated the whole face of the earth.Enoch’s message is for Avatars who broke rules concerning marriage and fornication. Other avatars married daughters of God without any problems.Read the text carefully. So marrying a daughter of Adam is not a taboo, however something the avatars in Enoch did was taboo. (Incest)All fits

The Er of the myth of Er is Greek and Luke mentioning Er means CHRIST IS OF GREEK BLOOD AND A DESCENDED OF Character in THE MYTH OF ER's bloodline.Christ is of Greek descent and of Er’s bloodlineLastly there are many more avatars other than the ones mentioned in Enoch. The genesis section refers to when the avatars began taking female descended of Adam as wives, before that other humans were taken as wives (or husbands).Now a good avatar turns that mate into a mature offspring 0 of God.Remember man is Adam or synthetically man of the earthEarthling? The Earthman and women populate the face of the earth then God created an earthling or earthman in the Garden. Thus the name.ValLast answerIf God is perfect then he pulled DNA (a sperm?) from Joseph perfected it, picked a perfect egg from marry perfected it and added his own DNA and allowed marry to immaculately conceive Christ. Thus Christ is josephs son genetically. Thus Christ had three DNA strands. Some people today have three strands of DNA, yet this does not mean they are avatars.The three strand DNA appears in the gene pool about the time of Christ. HmmUsually people with three strands of DNA are gifted people, but not always. There were two strand DNA avatars as well, like Enoch.

Seth also holds to these genealogies but by Seth’s time, many distant female cosines exist, no problems.MARY IS A DISTANT COSINE OF JOSEPH. So we know she draws the same linage at about four generations back as Joseph does, ah a clue to the daughter of Adam marrying Kane question mentioned earlier. If it is permissible for Christ parents to be distant cosines then Kane’s marriage as outlined above is permissible.Reflections with in reflections. (A baby goes through the evolution humanity did in the womb, every skip is when God changed the creatures on earth in what is called a quickening, these are the missing links of evolution, EMBRYOS HAVE GILLS AT ONE POINT, LOOK LIKE FISH THEN THE GILLS FALL OFF AND SO ON.) The universe from the big bang evolved in this reflective way. The potential for what is was seeded in the bang that created what is in the womb of space, the nothing that is something.Enoch the walker with God is the grand son of Enoch the city builder, thus the wife of the father of the Enoch the walker with God is descendent from Kane, and thus this Enoch redeems the whole Kane line. Noah redeems the curse of Adam. Christ makes the idea of an avatar good. (Christ is much more than this of course). Christ redeems everyone and his second appearance or emanation might be the redemption of Christ? Christ redeeming himself?PeaceEr is a pamphilios, of every tribe. thus he is not just Greek though he has a Greek name, thus Christ would not be just Greek if he had this blood line but of every tribe. A universal man containing all blood lines and still Jewish by descent. Er in Lukes liniage is the Er in the myth of Er.

If there is only one God he would make sure everyone believed in the same God even if people argued over the terms of that worship. If there is only one God the idea of what is good and virtuous would be the same in these religions, as it is. God wanted people to see the equality of his presence with everyone, see all humans as equals and work with all their ideas concerning him and his exaltation to realize the truth of the meaning of Life and God’s plan.( see rider with the many crowns in revolations.PeacePlease see this site concerning theosis or becoming divine in the Greek orthodox faith. One must be virtuous, good and a paradigm of justice to achieve this state. I have been experiencing theosis since 1990 and was touched directly by the holy spirit while reading Revelations, This includes seeing uncreated light, I reached Theoria in 98. I have had every test possible done on my eyes to ensure the phenomenon was real. My eyes are perfectly normal. The theosis has been confirmed by the religious leaders of my church. Theosis is becoming utterly human. http://www.greekorthodoxchurch.org/theosis_contents.html THEOSIS* - DEIFICATION AS THE PURPOSE OF MAN'S LIFE Dear Mr. Petridis, I'm afraid that I can't answer your question about the mark of Cain. Your understanding of Elohim goes far beyond the Jewish one. For Jews Elohim (grammatically a plural) means simply God; it is true that according to the rabbis Elohim is characterized by justice while the alternative designation Adonai or Hashem privileges mercy. Yours, C.O. I sent this at first: Mr Orwin The inclusion of Er in Luke's genealogy has some significant implications. The Er Luke mentions is the same one mentioned in the myth of Er. Er is a pamphilios: He belongs to all tribes and thus is of all blood lines. Er is a Greek name , yet Er is not just Greek. Most likely he had a Greek grandfather and father. His mother was obviously of the blood line of Adam and Jewish. The inclusion of Er in Christ's genealogy means Christ was of all blood lines, though he was by all regards Jewish. If one assumes that Christ had three DNA strands ( the triple helix does exist in humanity) and one suggests that one strand was immaculately taken from Joseph, one was divine and the third of his mother, Luke's genealogy is pertinent, correct and in accordance with Talmudic teachings. In fact, a DNA test of the blood found on the shroud of Turin proved that the person on the shroud had three DNA strands. The corrected carbon dating places the shroud at about 0 ACE and a seed from a thorn found on the shroud places it exclusively in Israel, in particular, in the area of Jerusalem - the plants name is called crysalidis( this thorn historically is said to have been used to make Christ's crown during the crucifixion; please refer to the web sites for the companies that did the DNA testing and carbon dating for further details concerning this matter).Note: According to the Talmud the Hebrew Messiah will not die, not even for three days. Messiah means anointed one( of God), the term is used to refer to Prophets and Hebrew kings in the old testament. Lastly, according to the Talmud, Elohim can also mean angel, son or child of god and so on.Thank you once more If God can anoint one Messiah he can anoint another Hebrew as well. So I then sent him this: If one interprets Elohim as God exclusively would the genesis section not then imply that God took wives of the daughters of man (man here can also mean the daughters of Adam [as in Adam and Eve]). Does this not suggest that the daughters of Adam were impregnated by God (immaculately?) and their children were mighty men of renown( like Christ?)?Very interesting idea. Thank you for this idea.It actually means both, as Elohim is also God acting in the world. See the children of God and God both are Elohim. According to original scripture the messiah was suppose to die for three days and become resurrected. That biblical section was decannonised by the Jews soon after Christ.Peace ValNothing prof. Orwin said contradicts my idea of Elohim. All Elohim are simply God or part of the perfect form of God (a better translation is the complete form or entire of God, see Plato concerning the complete forms or entire forms.) The idea of Justice is entailed in all Elohim children of God and God the almighty. Finally if God conceives with women that child the mighty person of renown can also be Elohim. The material was quite helpful.ValPeaceOne last way to look at itIf God took human form, but not in a vessel and had intercourse with the women then one avoids Immaculate Conception. Did God do this? Let’s say he did, he can do anything including Immaculate Conception. The mighty people of renown are both male and female.Thus God is Elohim, offspring are Elohim and God can take any form he wants when he wants to conceive, even avatars of both sexes born of man and women.In Hebrew there are no capitals thus all the forms of elohim are part of complete form of GOD.Demi gods born of God and women directly are half Elohim, well God incarnate.Thus, demi God's are elohim or what we call the trinity’s sons of God. Small ‘e’ elohim ( gods) vs large ‘E’ Elohim ( God). Dear Val: I'd have to agree with what Professor Orwin says. Your understanding of Elohim goes much beyond the Jewish one. What I'd add is that, although Elohim is grammatically plural, when it is used as a name of God (from Genesis 1 on), it is consistently used as a singular, so the noun form as an apparent plural is deceptive. And although the name "Elohim" refers, for ancient rabbinic thought ( = Talmuds and Midrashim), to God's attribute of justice, while the name "Adonai" refers to God's attribute of mercy, neither "Elohim" nor "Adonai" is, strictly speaking, the one true name of God, which no one really knows absolutely (although the four-letter Hebrew name YHVH--which "Adonai" represents--comes closest, even if we don't any longer know its vowels, and hence cannot pronounce it properly). The question of divine names, and of THE divine name, is a complex and subtle one, in biblical, in rabbinic, and in medieval thought. (You heard a little about its complexity in medieval mystical thought last semester.) Thus, one cannot (in almost any Jewish understanding) interpret "Elohim" as what you call "God exclusively." For "the children of God" and "God" both to be "Elohim," as you put it, is to abstract from all of the other names of God, not to mention the other contexts in which "Elohim" occurs and the other uses to which it is put. As for Maimonides, with whom you are by now somewhat familiar, he explains these textual peculiarities by the new and rigorous interpretive method of (almost scientific) "equivocality": the key-words, just like the key-names, actually have different but specific meanings, and one must know the complete text, as well as their contexts, in order to adequately interpret the meaning of any such key-term or key-name. In I, 2, he specifically deals with "Elohim," and he lets us know unambiguously that: "every Hebrew [i.e., educated Jew] knew that the term 'Elohim' [notice: he calls it a "term," and not only a "name"] is equivocal, designating the deity, the angels, and the rulers governing cities." Elohim is a form of God or part of the perfect form of God.

Complete forms are unsayable, Elohim is in one sense sayable. If the unsayable God manifests forms of himself would it not be safe to use forms to describe a form beyond form that manifests all forms, yet is in itself beyond form?

Kenneth Green <kenneth.green@rogers.com> wrote:--The big problem with this formulation is that it sounds more Greek (i.e., in the Platonic-philosophic sense) than Jewish (i.e., in the Hebrew-biblical sense).--Is it possible to speak of the Jewish God as possessed of forms or parts?

On 5-Mar-06, at 4:59 PM, val petridis wrote:

> Elohim is a form of God or part of the perfect form of God.

Kenneth Hart GreenDepartment for the Study of ReligionUniversity of Toronto

If God had a form beyond form only he would know it. Might one say that the source of forms is not a form? As the source of form forms the form. However, one might also say that part of God's form is beyond form. As Maimonides might say in his negative theology a form that is not form or formless form.Example when one makes water out of hydrogen and oxygen, neither gas is the form of water yet the moment it if bonded it forms the form of water. Is the form of water in the form of its constituents? Is their not something unsayably more to the forming of the form of water?

Kenneth Green <kenneth.green@rogers.com> wrote:Great and still unresolved questions arise: Is it proper to characterize God as in any sense a form? Or as you also put it, is it "safe" to so represent Him? And even if it's in some sense necessary (whether or not it's "safe"), how is it possible to use forms to describe what might (in only a certain sense) be characterized as "the Form" beyond form, so as not to lead people to commit the error of thinking of the form beyond form as a form?

On 5-Mar-06, at 11:45 PM, val petridis wrote:

> would it not be safe to use forms to describe a form beyond form > that manifests all forms, yet is in itself beyond form?

Kenneth Hart GreenDepartment for the Study of ReligionUniversity of Toronto

Your holinessThe entire argument monophysites believe God embodies himself then returns back to God fully, yet they pray to Christ thus somehow Christ knows how to individuate himself from the totality of God.Yet God is also the only begotten, begotten before all ages, thus he is somehow different than God.HM sounds like our earlier hypothesis.to answer monophysites believe God embodies himself then returns back to God fully, like the changeling in deep space nine( the tv show) he can become one with all the Essenes and yet be separate. He is sent by God like the holy spirit and angels ( as the bible says, the devil). When he becomes one with the essence he maintains a oneness which is still is separate from it. His return and becoming one with the father( AND MOTHER ) he imprints himself with his permanent presence. God the separation of the offspring of God begotten before all ages is the same incarnate force of God. Christ himself and all avatars are imprinted with that essence and remain one with it even when separated. The only begotten is a permanent separate imprint of all the avatars as once, the father( and mother) are also imprinted with the essence of the avatar. Thus God can send any avatar including Christ plus the only begotten in person, thus any manifestation can be sent including the totality of it. when God touches one one is touched by all three parts of the Essenes. Every avatar can at any time become one, meld into one face with God as can the three eternal parts of the trinity, Father( and mother) ,offspring and holy spirit. Lastly every avatar and angel also has a Free will which is ultimately a divine will of God and is one with it yet not the entirety of the Essenes, but one with it. Thus they can also will their own deeds and be separate from God. This is a divine will yet individuated from the whole. Yet this will is still as Christ said to the devil the bidding of God. notice the son became a trinity as well, the existance of an avatar of an avatar makes the original avatar or son of God a father, well lets say father( and mother ) are the parent. All avatars act like the father or sorry parent.see why a paradigm was used here too?valsee the same machanics work for bothholy spirit, holy breath from greek, pnevma is any energy or breating in and out that God does. It takes many forms.remember the imprints make the timeless trinity temporal as well.

When Christ ascended before returning to teach his disciples he become one with the essence of God. Each avatar remains one with the essence of the offspring and God in total, even when the individuated manifestation(avatar) is separate.If one remembers that all three parts of the trinity predate creation them one can see each as being perfect forms of everyone who is was and will be.this is why the only begotten was begotten before all ages.valGod can send the only begotten as any face of an avatar.VAl how i saw at it dirst. to finish off the ideas concerning the trinity. The part of God that is incarnated returns to the father. It becomes one with God yet it also simultaneously remain es separate yet one with it. The only begotten in carnates in others as God and its self. when it incarnates in others one is one with God and the only begotten. Finally each avatar is one with god yet remains the themselves. in the same fashion each avatar incarnates in people as themselves and as the only begotten which is the incarnating force of God and God that they are one with always. Even when they leave the body, part of them remains as does they only begotten and God himself. Thus when one dies each part of God returns to its source and merges fully with it, while. God, the only begotten(that which remains simultaneously one with God and separate) becomes one with the released incarnative force also remaining separate from its source yet one with it. This occurs for God the only begotten and the avatars themselves respectfully. Each avatar remains one with the source of that avatar-ship. in other words a part of God incarnates in people either through his touch directly, which is having placed the only begotten directly in you, or through an avatar incarnating in you. part of it is always the source of that avatar-ship and returns to the source. Once individuated part of it remains separate both as the incarnative force and the avatar, yet they are all one with God. The new avatar always is one with its sources.Christ Immanuel is one with the only begotten and the father(and mother) always and all those who wore him, became his avatar. peaceall these definitions are correct. These are all properties of the same God and trinity. Hitler called himself a Christ yet condemned murder and war. Christ means virtuous or good one. Hitler’s actions were the opposite of good and virtue. He was not a Christ but the opposite. He as an anti=Christthe first person to call himself Christ and do such evil was Hitler.The ideas of what the Messiah might have to do to be the Messiah come from Genesis. One idea was the immaculate birth based on Elohim finding just and fair women to impregnate. The second is the Messiah can not die? Hm mm. I know who does not die in the bible, old or even new? Enoch no less. How does Enoch not die, well he disappears. What event other than the disappearance marked Enoch life? Enoch:walks with God. Hm mm. God is divinity and beyond. he is the source of all things divine. To walk with Him is to be embraced in his arms, but not physical ones. If someone fulfils a prophesy of the Messiah and not all Jews accept him that idea is scratched of the list until only one prophesy remains. We are at the last prophesy. Not born of Elohim but of man and women you say? Divine no less, hm mm, touched by God and made immortal , like Enoch. I thank God because I suspect He is about to appear. Blessed be Hashem blessed be he. Maybe that walk with God thing might help us recognize him.Valyes I will read the section you mentioned tomorrow before dusk. A true Christians sabbath starts sundown Friday to sundown Sunday. its called a weekend. My church doctrineSo the walk with God entails being touched in a way that is not intense enough as the Rabbis say to make one be no more.

A difference,the Jews say timeless God beyond form (formless form). manifestations of god or aspects of God in time. We say father who is timeless but can manifest himself timelessly and holy spirit that is in time yet can act timelessly. Offspring who is incarnated yet in time and timeless. each is unknowable in their entirety and knowable as they manifest. see the same God spoken of differently.see why God loves all the ways people talk about him. Wouldn't you.God walks with plants too the Buddhist say one day God walked or the universe developed the rice.hmm plant spirits, well all things have quantum shift thus all things have a spirit. Respect it.remember the Jews believed the moon and the sun debated over who should shine moreiching is the confusion book of incantations. there were originally 6 books the book of music disappeared.some Buddhist in China use itching spells, it is forbidden to Buddhists but not daoist and Confucianism, its origin. Confucianism comes from the name of a great scholar in china. it is a scholars movement that predates Confucianism, thus celestial emperor(God) stems from this movement.. daoism is about longevity and Harmony with the world. divine grace meant living longmany Chinese monks eat and fast to prolong lifea Jane once said to me, you cannot ride more than one horse at a time, I replied with a chariots you can ride many horses or like in a circus you came ride on the backs of twothe silks humble themselves before God by sitting on the floor, this also reflects their peasant beginnings: King you sit high up where only God should, for I kneel and bow only to Godpraise them allPraise Adonais( aspect of mercy and Roman God of beauty, both were connected to jealousy)Taoism says live well die well sex well and be good, good thinking. love you valthe divine song can be played on the famous wood wind instruments of aboriginals to unlock secretsmeso American gods include dinosaurs. dragons baby. to finish off the ideas concerning the trinity. The part of God that is incarnated returns to the father. It becomes one with God yet it also simultaneously remain es separate yet one with it. The only begotten in carnates in others as God and its self. when it incarnates in others one is one with God and the only begotten. Finally each avatar is one with god yet remains the themselves. in the same fashion each avatar incarnates in people as themselves and as the only begotten which is the incarnating force of God and God that they are one with always. Even when they leave the body, part of them remains as does they only begotten and God himself. Thus when one dies each part of God returns to its source and merges fully with it, while. God, the only begotten(that which remains simultaneously one with God and separate) becomes one with the released incarnative force also remaining separate from its source yet one with it. This occurs for God the only begotten and the avatars themselves respectfully. Each avatar remains one with the source of that avatar-ship. in other words a part of God incarnates in people either through his touch directly, which is having placed the only begotten directly in you, or through an avatar incarnating in you. part of it is always the source of that avatar-ship and returns to the source. Once individuated part of it remains separate both as the incarnative force and the avatar, yet they are all one with God. The new avatar always is one with its sources.Christ Immanuel is one with the only begotten and the father(and mother) always and all those who wore him, became his avatar. for another day.when Zoroaster looked into the sky he saw chaos and order,. he also saw the eventual end of chaos into order, not two Gods but two aspects of God who were gods.the Parsee's are Zoroaster'sOdin enlightened himself ( do not try this at home) through pain.he poked an eye out and hung himself upside down.in the end there is a great battle on Ragnarok the shacking rock or moving rock Earth baby.then two people of their line remain to reprocreated their line.there is an arch flood story in Greek myth, two people exit from the arch. hmm, man and a women. Since the idea of dinosaurs has caught your attention let me elucidate. I once heard that dinosaur bones were mistaken as dragons and myths were woven about them. People even worshipped them. Well there is a little more to the story than that. The first arch angelSamael ( he who poisons to strength God, he who proves lip service to god is not good enough , see Jobe) is a dragon. The first arch angel is a dinosaur, one of seven intelligent races, see Revelations. Well there is the one head we thought went extinct, another is the avians and so on. The grey aliens are actually dinosaurs; Intelligent dinosaurs still alive yet, living as a kabalist might say, on a parallel dimension of earth. See the movie Roswell(docudrama not TV show) in which the son of one of the captains who found the flying saucer is told by US secret service men that the grey aliens come from earth and now live on a parallel dimension of earth that is a reflection of here. Rabbis say at least one heaven is a reflection of here. Basic string theory. Greys are real and there is a lot of biblical proof for these creatures. Satan is: he who acts like God, not he who is God (Micheal) or he who poisons God like a test of faith( snake handlers?) Satan is also a dragon and is not the devil. Satan is The one who sits around the foot of the tree of life placed there by Zeus to tend the golden apple( sometimes the fruit of knowledge is called an apple because of this myth, it is a fig like the Botti( Buddha sat under before enlightenment and a fig that grows in Israel. Christ once cursed such a tree in the new testament) In Greek myth, Zeus( God not Dion) in a garden placed a dragon around the tree of golden apples( not real apples but like earth peoples that are potatoes a golden apple is a fruit unto itself). If eaten these fruits make you immortal and heal people. This is where Lilith the avatar of the snake God is mistaken as the devil dragon by Greeks interpreting Jewish and christian theology through the eyes of Greek myth. Serpent(Lilith) is Adams first girlfriend, back then sex meant marriages as proven by the Greek term Gamos which means sex and marriage). To get to the fruit you must pass the dragons test.For the tree of knowledge the serpent simply says you might not die Adam so eat, God says you might die so do not eat. Well he did not die but neither did God lie because to Adam God said you might die not that you will would, God allowed for the slight chance that Adam might be strong enough to live eating the fruit to be allowed to breed and be remembers as a great ( an Elohim). Elohim meets Elohim in the garden. Hmm MM However, Adam hid from God and thus did not pass the nest test to eat the fruit of life, though even a chance there existed that the fruit might still be eaten by him at a later date, but alas it was not.Giants like Goliath are from earlier blood lines that the of Adam. Babylonians refer to earlier humans around them as giants. PS: Ever notice in Mark it says the Messiah is here and it is INTERPRETED as CHRIST. Theseus Greek moses and Savior from the Egyptian divine Pharaoh myth, bye bye Sphinx. Answer to riddle dis-empowers the confusion of the Minoan Semitic people once colony of Egypt. Bye bye bull riders and bull strength of Egypt. I just realized why biblical scholars interpret Elohim just as sons of God. From the Greek myth that Zeus made a garden with the golden apple, in king James Elohim the god, the voice of god who enters the garden to kick Adam out, who meats Elohim(Adam who is the son of god) is the voice of God or one of his avatars. Well God warns Adam, Elohim kick him out of the garden. thus El was God and Elohim was always son of God(avatar).thus the virgin marry thing is even broken by the early christians, they read Elohim as not being God the father and made Elohim completely Greek myth, for Zeus(Dion and Elohim) impregnated marry as he did Theseus' mother. thus the sons of god took wives. However in the garden God walked in as the voice of God and God himself, avatar\rs work here.hmm mmm hmmm valboth interpretations are real. Remembering that the sons of God can be read as taking one wife, son of God took one wifeHere is the churches save:When God, Elohim meaning simply God saw that the all the daughters of Adam were fair, meaning just, simply God took a wife.food for thought. remember the Jews read it singular the king James interpreters read it plural, I read it as both. Valsee somehow all this is one program no matter what variable you put into a word.see my first interpretation is the best. Synthesis. best way to make sense of it is look at all the examples that fit this.Time efficient (perfected like an engineer.) As an engineer would do it There is a time range(R) that marks the plains existence (P) and one for each dimension (D).There is your point (F) or any point in time/space (f2) and there is the co-efficient of time produced by the two fixed times(c).Therefore Total time (TT) = R X (C/ F)R= P/Dc=F/ F2 if P=4D=2F=8F2=2 R=4/2 Therefore R=2 c= 8 /2 Therefore c=4 tt= 2 x 2(4/8) therefore tt= 2x 2 x 1/2 therefore tt=1 the two point co-efficient spoken about before takes into account relativity.an object travelling at light speed has less time relative to the gravity well of its origin.however two objects travelling from each other at the same speed remain at the same time signature.see the limit for time according to Einstein, well plain time, is light speed thus travelling at this speed causes one to have less timethus clock time is equal to gravity times the tt divided by its fixed time, which is based on the gravity affecting it divided by the inverse of the speed it is going effected, by how close it is to the speed of light.love youValbut Einstein said the laws of physics do not hold after the speed of light special theory of relativity.Tesla calls Einstein childish because space and time are not the same However both are brilliant people.Tesla was Yugoslavian. he worked on the Philadelphia experiment,a shit using Tesla tech was teleported to Norfolk harbour was properly sighted by the British navy then teleported back to Philadelphiaeach object has its own time outside of the time barrier everything got unstuck, well the time dimension Tesla crossedto make sure everything does not meld together one needs something to make each thing stick to its own time when entering that dimension. our body and brains are also different thus we need one stabilizer to maintain our coherency and sanityeveryone on the boat at Philadelphia went insane and people melded into the ship Space is temporally indexed but a rock in the middle of a mountain has more time than one at the top, yet the proportion is not equal to its space, consider a rock with a gravity whole beside, on in normal gravity different time and space but the proportion is not direct as one would assume.Space is the x-y-z axis. In fact two objects can share the same space but be in different times. ValGod be with us all

the val save..Read plurals as plurals and singulars as singulars. For example, El is singular: God. Elohim is plural God(s) the different religions are not only compatible, but complimentary. we are one, the same yet have unique difference meant to enrich our unified human culture. To read Elohim as simply the singular is wrong, Orwin was not wrong, it simply means God as a plural. Wives is plural as well, not singular. The Christians are wrong to have read this as one.issue closed.peacePraise God

Todays thoughtssomething about monotheistism we will all agree with.Your holinessyou see the father and mother are variables, when you put any (G)god in the parent part(father) of the trinity, the offspring are the children of that divine parentage.the holy spirit is the powers and energy the parents through God can afford their avatars, thrones or seats or offspring(son of); What is bestowed on them by God through the parent, even if that parent is God or a grandchild avatar: the avatar of an avatar to make the son(offspring avatar) a father(parent) is to give the offspring a similar idea and mechanism to God the parent. Thus, if God is the variable used for the father then the sons ( and daughters) are the offspring of God(sons and daughters of God). and the holy spirit is as we know it. Of course, each is much more than this and what we know of them. To make the parents Christ or any avatar is to make the offspring their avatars, IE the son of Christ, the son of Adam , the son of crisna and/or so on. Each bestows a particular grace and power based on its link and particular oneness with God and any avatars that act like a parent(or grand parent) for it.For instance Christ is the son of God and the son of Adam, thus he received grace from God directly and could send(bring down) and use the powers of the holy spirit as God, though the spirit was sourced in God and can be used only as God allows. This rule also holds true for the avatars of avatars(grand offspring): God dictates how the parent avatars work and how their energies are transmitted to their offspring(avatar or throne). Thus, Immanuel also had powers and energies through Adam. God made sure each of his children and grand children were special and had a special link with the parent avatar they are one with making each unique and special: one with God yet separate and different. See why believing in the many gods and, first and foremost, in God makes one very powerful.This is something we can all agree on;We can all agree with this supposition:Christ dies ascends unto the father, becomes one with the entirety of the essence and then becomes individuated and returns to teach. Following this he goes to heaven. The dead he resurrected go to heaven or another plain. No normal mortal saw the people Christ resurrected after his Resurrection. Where did these people go? They were resurrected into heaven, as Chrysostom says in the Easter liturgy of the orthodox, Adam and eve and all their descendants are redeemed by Christ and resurrected into heaven( see Greek christian orthodox Easter liturgy). every time Christ returns unto the father he is seated to his right, one with the father as an equal part of the trinity, yet separate, this is as I described before.The A-W is the son of God and its avatars( the ones who are one with its essence and incarnated in them). it also has a body of its own, see the beginning of Revelations, this body is the only begotten that all avatars of God are one with For the logos was with God, it was God, yet it was separate from God and God sent it into the darkness yet the darkness did not recognize it Thus God sends the logos and only begotten.All avatars share . share in and can manifest on its own.see Revelations.Theosis is sharing in the divinity of Christ. Being Christ's avatar, or the offspring of Christ and grand child of God is sharing the divinity of the Nazarene and through him the only begotten(this is why Christ the Nazarene who is a particular manifestation and the only begotten have the same name.). To be Christ's avatar , Christ must judge you as being worthy of his avatar-ship, God does the same, yet when Christ does it you end up in new Jerusalem where there is no death. Well one has to pass everyone's test mentioned in Revelations, wear all the crowns of all the religions9 the rider marked as the logos of logos in Revelations), respect all these crowns equally and pass Christ's judgement to get to become immortal, Christ(the Nazarene and through him the only begotten) avatar and pass final judgement. All religions have their own Christ, only begotten avatar and have their equivalent to the Nazarene and by respecting Jesus Christ are judged and brought to their religion's holy city(new new deli?). This is why we must respect them to pass our judgement, do not worship part of Christ or God but the entirety of its Essenes , grace and manifestations. One can pass many such judgements and judge's test to become many avatars, including God's avatar directly, and become one and present in many, if not all holy (spiritual) cities..peace.valtheosis receives its energies from Both God and from Christ who intercedes for us, or is the hypothesis between us and God. I also feel the holy burn in my head. Theosis is the beginning of adulthood; it is like puberty for growing up. Being Christ’s avatar (or any avatar’s avatar) is adolescence (a young adult) and an avatar of God an adulthood.Theosis begins with the touch of the Holy Spirit; it matures when one brings it down them selves, the monks like Christ (I have brought down the holy spirit countless times) can bring down holy energy, through Christ (or any avatar) or from God himself. Theoria is when one reaches the point of seeing Theofanisis.Peace The protestants love the holy spirit, well so do we, but look at all the powers they give it, tongues, faith healing, we have theosis, the chill, the holy burn (Celts say this burn occurs when (G)god(s) are happy), the mysteries.so the energies of the variable used as the parent( the (G)od(s) is what the spirit of that variable is.see put Christ there and its the energy or spirit of Christ.Christ sends his energy and spirit to those who believe in him, with Gods grace. The avatars energy comes from God. Avatars of the avatars have their own energy and spirit, while sharing the spirit or energy of God through their parent Deity and sharing the energy of the Deity itself. Well the parent avatar shares in their offspring divinity and their spirit and energy. Christ sends his offspring as God sends him, yet God sends anyone God wants, child. Grandchild, great grandchild and so on.

so whatever G(g)od(s) you put as the variable, its energies or spirit gets sent to the believers. I have felt all churches energy. all the energies of all religions and avatars. The avatar of God also can bring down the energy of the God.The saints use both the energy of God and Christ to do miracles. Protestants often confuse the avatar as God. Always worship God first and God through Christ the Nazarene or any avatar.Valps the first Buddha was an avatar of God, one with the universe, place Buddha into the father variable and you get the spirit or energy of Buddha and his incarnations( offspring or son of).To Buddha he reincarnates in others, but to his believers he incarnates in them, this means there are children of Buddha and energies of Buddha as well.The Hindus already respect Christ, he is one of the avatars of Brahman and a Hindu can pray to Christ, for their wisdom they included him in their pantheon, yet some Hindus forget to respect us for believing in him. yet we must respect them too.praise God.I have brought the holy energy down myself countless times , on my self and others, and the Celts say the holy burn occurs when the (G)god(s) are happy. When I read revelations and first felt the holy chill, it came down itself and I criedVal
Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:45:47 +0800

Shanbell@yorku.ca wrote:
HI Val, The burn is energy. Burn slow and steady. Like the avatar. Shan

through the ojebwa I felt their energy: Native, the one in ojebwa professy is me( truly a white man is to come save them).I have reached theosis in all religions.try putting mother godess names in the formula. try putting the earth there, the sun, ancient gods angels, the great spirit, nature, the universe or universal qutuum.each name of God represaents the people who believe in it and its spirit. it is ultimately the same one God with different aspect, try putting each jewish name in the parent variable. Remember GOD is all of them at once( at the same time). valyou see the father and mother are variables, when you put any (G)god in the parent part(father) of the trinity, the offspring are the children of that divine parentage.the holy spirit is the powers and energy the parents through God can afford their avatars, thrones or seats or offspring(son of); What is bestowed on them by God through the parent, even if that parent is God or a grandchild avatar: the avatar of an avatar to make the son(offspring avatar) a father(parent) is to give the offspring a similar idea and mechanism to God the parent. Thus, if God is the variable used for the father then the sons ( and daughters) are the offspring of God(sons and daughters of God). and the holy spirit is as we know it. Of course, each is much more than this and what we know of them. To make the parents Christ or any avatar is to make the offspring their avatars, IE the son of Christ, the son of Adam , the son of crisna and/or so on. Each bestows a particular grace and power based on its link and particular oneness with God and any avatars that act like a parent(or grand parent) for it.For instance Christ is the son of God and the son of Adam, thus he received grace from God directly and could send(bring down) and use the powers of the holy spirit as God, though the spirit was sourced in God and can be used only as God allows. This rule also holds true for the avatars of avatars(grand offspring): God dictates how the parent avatars work and how their energies are transmitted to their offspring(avatar or throne). Thus, Immanuel also had powers and energies through Adam. God made sure each of his children and grand children were special and had a special link with the parent avatar they are one with making each unique and special: one with God yet separate and different. See why believing in the many gods and, first and foremost, in God makes one very powerful.This is something we can all agree on;We can all agree with this supposition:Christ dies ascends unto the father, becomes one with the entirety of the essence and then becomes individuated and returns to teach. Following this he goes to heaven. The dead he resurrected go to heaven or another plain. No normal mortal saw the people Christ resurrected after his Resurrection. Where did these people go? They were resurrected into heaven, as Chrysostom says in the Easter liturgy of the orthodox, Adam and eve and all their descendants are redeemed by Christ and resurrected into heaven( see Greek christian orthodox Easter liturgy). every time Christ returns unto the father he is seated to his right, one with the father as an equal part of the trinity, yet separate, this is as I described before.The A-W is the son of God and its avatars( the ones who are one with its essence and incarnated in them). it also has a body of its own, see the beginning of Revelations, this body is the only begotten that all avatars of God are one with For the logos was with God, it was God, yet it was separate from God and God sent it into the darkness yet the darkness did not recognize it Thus God sends the logos and only begotten.All avatars share . share in and can manifest on its own.see Revelations.Theosis is sharing in the divinity of Christ. Being Christ's avatar, or the offspring of Christ and grand child of God is sharing the divinity of the Nazarene and through him the only begotten(this is why Christ the Nazarene who is a particular manifestation and the only begotten have the same name.). To be Christ's avatar , Christ must judge you as being worthy of his avatar-ship, God does the same, yet when Christ does it you end up in new Jerusalem where there is no death. Well one has to pass everyone's test mentioned in Revelations, wear all the crowns of all the religions9 the rider marked as the logos of logos in Revelations), respect all these crowns equally and pass Christ's judgement to get to become immortal, Christ(the Nazarene and through him the only begotten) avatar and pass final judgement. All religions have their own Christ, only begotten avatar and have their equivalent to the Nazarene and by respecting Jesus Christ are judged and brought to their religion's holy city(new new deli?). This is why we must respect them to pass our judgement, do not worship part of Christ or God but the entirety of its Essenes , grace and manifestations. One can pass many such judgements and judge's test to become many avatars, including God's avatar directly, and become one and present in many, if not all holy (spiritual) cities..peace.valtheosis receives its energies from Both God and from Christ who intercedes for us, or is the hypothesis between us and God. The protestants love the holy spirit, well so do we, but look at all the powers they give it, tongues, faith healing, we have theosis, the chill, the holy burn (Celts say this burn occurs when (G)god(s) are happy), the mysteries.so the energies of the variable used as the parent( the (G)od(s) is what the spirit of that variable is).see put Christ there and its the energy or spirit of Christ.Christ sends his energy and spirit to those who believe in him, with Gods grace. The avatars energy comes from God. Avatars of the avatars have their own energy and spirit, while sharing the spirit or energy of God through their parent Deity and sharing the energy of the Deity itself. Well the parent avatar shares in their offspring divinity and their spirit and energy. Christ sends his offspring as God sends him, yet God sends anyone God wants, child. Grandchild, great grandchild and so on. so whatever G(g)od(s) you put as the variable, its energies or spirit gets sent to the believers. I have felt all churches energy. all the energies of all religions and avatars. The avatar of God also can bring down the energy of the God.The saints use both the energy of God and Christ to do miracles. Protestants often confuse the avatar as God. Always worship God first and God through Christ the Nazarene or any avatar.Valps the first Buddha was an avatar of God, one with the universe, place Buddha into the father variable and you get the spirit or energy of Buddha and his incarnations( offspring or son of).To Buddha he reincarnates in others, but to his believers he incarnates in them, this means there are children of Buddha and energies of Buddha as well.The Hindus already respect Christ, he is one of the avatars of Brahman and a Hindu can pray to Christ, for their wisdom they included him in their pantheon, yet some Hindus forget to respect us for believing in him. yet we must respect them too.praise God.I have brought the holy energy down myself countless times , on my self and others, and the Celts say the holy burn occurs when the (G)god(s) are happy. When I read revelations and first felt the holy chill, it came down itself and I cried See darma means logos of the universe. Like Christ apostle Buddhas were enlightened by the only begotten sent by God. the orthodox Christians call this profitessy, the professy of the holy spirit. The enlightenment force is the darma of the universe. Dogma and darma are the same word.Gautama Buddha was taken by the spirit, walking with God is the fetisy. It is the light touch of God, it is timeless. Being enlightened like the apostles of Christ and Buddha is being touched by the only begotten. Christ died on the cross so we should not have to die of sin(upon enlightenment. Buddha taught darma but people died. Christians taught the logos of God do not die of the shock of their sins in comparison to the divine grace of the logos of logos or the enlightenment of darma.Nirvana is the epifetisis which is the after fetisis . it is becoming one with the father, being touched and raised to one with the essence, Christ returns to God after returning from nirvana and speaking to the Marys as an angel.So though Christ , unlike Buddha, Noah and Hercules, we do not die before becoming one with God.well Buddha's apostles who healed and not one did die when enlightened. I forgot to mention, after the death of Christ, a new type of Buddha appears who is called a boti satfa. Boti satfas do not die upon enlightenment, christ did not forget his buddhist brothers, nor should we.Praise Christ and God The Koran was dictated to Mohamed by Gabrial and it is the word of Allah. only Allah(God ) knows what it really means. the Koran says, you may have one wife who is either an orphan, widow or neither widow or orphan.. (you may have A (one) wife of these types:orphan, widow or neither widow or orphan.)Allah was right the only begotten was not crucufied but in his place was his representative( his avatar), The nazarene. Allah was right, final judgement occurs when Christ the nazarene returns to create avatars and thus be part of the final judgement.Praise Allah(God) and(one of )his prophets Mohamed.

normally we call the inception of christ the fetisyhowever, I need another word with fitesy in it, epi after, pro before, no prefix is temporally itselfmaybe we can call the walk with God the fetisyfetisy. Or maybe better yet parafetisy.val

to point this out to youchristian theologists were attempting to find the trinity in the bible, where all three parts interact in the world.fetisy of Christ: inceptionprofetisis of the holy spirit( agio pnevma) enlightenmentepifetisy to the father(sto patir) nirvana see they tried to find all three . fetisis of God: inception of Christprofetisy of God: the sent only begotten: logos of logos(from the gospel of John, the logos of Logos is the son of God) Thus the enlightenment on mount tabor is caused by the only begotten and not the holy spirit.epifetisy becoming one with the essence of the father ( God)[and mother] Nirvana, monophitismparafetisy the walk with God taken by the spiritthe last three everyone can experience so there are four parts to the trinity? or three? well let's say the fetisy is all three parts of God working together. Or you can say it is a fourth part or the incentive and incarnative power of God. However, I am certain the trinity was realized before someone tried to find them in the bible. Otherwise, you have to add the incentive force to the trinity. Or you can say the incarnative force is also the enlightenment force as it says in the creed. Thus, it acted twice with Christ or it acted on Christ in the inception of Christ and with his apostles on mount tabor. Yes, the last one is the truth. But all three parts of God act in the bible in a way that can be said to be able to act on everyone. Yes, Christ was elated by the logos of logos at inception and the apostles on mount tabor were enlightened by the logos of logos in the same way the logos of logos or the darma enlightened ( Buddha force) of Buddha and his apostles. Buddha means enlightened one. Thus, the inception of Christ is the fetisy of the logos of logos.the walk with God or being taken by the spirit is the parafetisy of the holy spirit.the enlightenment of the apostles is the profetisis of the logos of logos.and the returning to God and becoming one with the essence is the epifetisy of God (father[and mother]).Now it makes sense. the enthanisis of the holy spirit at the baptisis of christ is like the holy chill.Ok the walk with god is better called the panfetisis and the enthanisis of the holy spirit the parafetisis.All good.I just realised it is the virgin Arithmea who everyone is married too.I ,like christ, would want to marry her, any women who would sit at my knees and listen to what I had to say is a women worth marrying. In fact, it is her I always compare women too. the next import thought to finish the idea off from yesterday. What I called the parafetisy is better called the panfetisy, cause walking with God is the pan. I would have called the epifetisy the panfetisy, however the name was already taken. Lastly at Christ's baptism the holy spirit appeared, enphanisis, and like a bird flew down from heaven. No one saw it, it is the holy chill or the pamfetisi: a fetisy for everyone who was present around Christ.

you see the father and mother are variables, when you put any (G)god in the parent part(father) of the trinity, the offspring are the children of that divine parentage.the holy spirit is the powers and energy the parents through God can afford their avatars, thrones or seats or offspring(son of); What is bestowed on them by God through the parent, even if that parent is God or a grandchild avatar: the avatar of an avatar to make the son(offspring avatar) a father(parent) is to give the offspring a similar idea and mechanism to God the parent. Thus, if God is the variable used for the father then the sons ( and daughters) are the offspring of God(sons and daughters of God). and the holy spirit is as we know it. Of course, each is much more than this and what we know of them. To make the parents Christ or any avatar is to make the offspring their avatars, IE the son of Christ, the son of Adam , the son of crisna and/or so on. Each bestows a particular grace and power based on its link and particular oneness with God and any avatars that act like a parent(or grand parent) for it.For instance Christ is the son of God and the son of Adam, thus he received grace from God directly and could send(bring down) and use the powers of the holy spirit as God, though the spirit was sourced in God and can be used only as God allows. This rule also holds true for the avatars of avatars(grand offspring): God dictates how the parent avatars work and how their energies are transmitted to their offspring(avatar or throne). Thus, Immanuel also had powers and energies through Adam. God made sure each of his children and grand children were special and had a special link with the parent avatar they are one with making each unique and special: one with God yet separate and different. See why believing in the many gods and, first and foremost, in God makes one very powerful.This is something we can all agree on;We can all agree with this supposition:Christ dies ascends unto the father, becomes one with the entirety of the essence and then becomes individuated and returns to teach. Following this he goes to heaven. The dead he resurrected go to heaven or another plain. No normal mortal saw the people Christ resurrected after his Resurrection. Where did these people go? They were resurrected into heaven, as Chrysostom says in the Easter liturgy of the orthodox, Adam and eve and all their descendants are redeemed by Christ and resurrected into heaven( see Greek christian orthodox Easter liturgy). every time Christ returns unto the father he is seated to his right, one with the father as an equal part of the trinity, yet separate, this is as I described before.The A-W is the son of God and its avatars( the ones who are one with its essence and incarnated in them). it also has a body of its own, see the beginning of Revelations, this body is the only begotten that all avatars of God are one with For the logos was with God, it was God, yet it was separate from God and God sent it into the darkness yet the darkness did not recognize it Thus God sends the logos and only begotten.All avatars share . share in and can manifest on its own.see Revelations.Theosis is sharing in the divinity of Christ. Being Christ's avatar, or the offspring of Christ and grand child of God is sharing the divinity of the Nazarene and through him the only begotten(this is why Christ the Nazarene who is a particular manifestation and the only begotten have the same name.). To be Christ's avatar , Christ must judge you as being worthy of his avatar-ship, God does the same, yet when Christ does it you end up in new Jerusalem where there is no death. Well one has to pass everyone's test mentioned in Revelations, wear all the crowns of all the religions9 the rider marked as the logos of logos in Revelations), respect all these crowns equally and pass Christ's judgement to get to become immortal, Christ(the Nazarene and through him the only begotten) avatar and pass final judgement. All religions have their own Christ, only begotten avatar and have their equivalent to the Nazarene and by respecting Jesus Christ are judged and brought to their religion's holy city(new new deli?). This is why we must respect them to pass our judgement, do not worship part of Christ or God but the entirety of its Essenes , grace and manifestations. One can pass many such judgements and judge's test to become many avatars, including God's avatar directly, and become one and present in many, if not all holy (spiritual) cities..peace.valtheosis receives its energies from Both God and from Christ who intercedes for us, or is the hypothesis between us and God.

I also feel the holy burn in my head. Theosis is the beginning of adulthood; it is like puberty for growing up. Being Christ’s avatar (or any avatar’s avatar) is adolescence (a young adult) and an avatar of God an adulthood. Ther burn is productive and shines the brilliance of a pleased God.Theosis begins with the touch of the Holy Spirit; it matures when one brings it down them selves, the monks like Christ (I have brought down the holy spirit countless times) can bring down holy energy, through Christ (or any avatar) or from God himself. Theoria is when one reaches the point of seeing Theofanisis.Peace The protestants love the holy spirit, well so do we, but look at all the powers they give it, tongues, faith healing, we have theosis, the chill, the holy burn (Celts say this burn occurs when (G)god(s) are happy), the mysteries.so the energies of the variable used as the parent( the (G)od(s) is what the spirit of that variable is.see put Christ there and its the energy or spirit of Christ.Christ sends his energy and spirit to those who believe in him, with Gods grace. The avatars energy comes from God. Avatars of the avatars have their own energy and spirit, while sharing the spirit or energy of God through their parent Deity and sharing the energy of the Deity itself. Well the parent avatar shares in their offspring divinity and their spirit and energy. Christ sends his offspring as God sends him, yet God sends anyone God wants, child. Grandchild, great grandchild and so on. so whatever G(g)od(s) you put as the variable, its energies or spirit gets sent to the believers. I have felt all churches energy. all the energies of all religions and avatars. The avatar of God also can bring down the energy of the God.The saints use both the energy of God and Christ to do miracles. Protestants often confuse the avatar as God. Always worship God first and God through Christ the Nazarene or any avatar.Valps the first Buddha was an avatar of God, one with the universe, place Buddha into the father variable and you get the spirit or energy of Buddha and his incarnations( offspring or son of).To Buddha he reincarnates in others, but to his believers he incarnates in them, this means there are children of Buddha and energies of Buddha as well.The Hindus already respect Christ, he is one of the avatars of Brahman and a Hindu can pray to Christ, for their wisdom they included him in their pantheon, yet some Hindus forget to respect us for believing in him. yet we must respect them too.praise God.I have brought the holy energy down myself countless times , on my self and others, and the Celts say the holy burn occurs when the (G)god(s) are happy. When I read revelations and first felt the holy chill, it came down itself and I criedVal

through the ojebwa I felt their energy: Native, the one in ojebwa professy is me( truly a white man is to come save them).I have reached theosis in all religions.try putting mother godess names in the formula. try putting the earth there, the sun, ancient gods angels, the great spirit, nature, the universe or universal qutuum.each name of God represaents the people who believe in it and its spirit. it is ultimately the same one God with different aspect, try putting each jewish name in the parent variable. Remember GOD is all of them at once( at the same time). valdude blurb I first got chills when i watched dune. At the end of the first film, when they say " how can this be for he is the qwart haderack" I always got chills. through herberts book. this is as early as 1984( most likely 1986). Dune was a good book. I usually dress up as the qwazart haderack on halloween. In dune there is only one bible, ecunamical, saying all religions are the same, it was a matter of samentics, yet notice we say they are all the same yet different, God had a reason to individuate each and allow each to be unifiable through him as well.different ways to beleive and tap into God.Herbert did not know how to unify them but dreamnt of the day they would be one.

from jewish professy the sun talks, it has been worshiped and many gods were sun gods( avatars of the sun).the only begotten appered to me new years day 2000." i am christ and am the last to take your seed" he appeared like a golden globe of light. suddenly my mind went timeless. josheph was christ father , jesus was josephs father.somehow he touched me or made me one with him. avatar maybe? probably touched is a better word.ah buddha mou. For bhudda describes us as glowing globes of light who sttod over the waters, see genesis first verse about the waters. we ate of the foam that appeared and become addicted to it. the foam became part of our being and to maintain the new being we needed to keep consuming foam.since this christ caused a timeless event( I could alter things in history, minor things.) it was the only begotten, begotten be fore all agespraise God. to describe the event in better ways. It was actually jan 14 2000 or our new year.Old calander.I was sitting in the small room upsatirs on the third floor. " i am christ and am the last to take your seed" he appeared like a golden globe of light. suddenly my mind went timeless. josheph was jesus father , jesus was josephs father and so on.I started trying to repair history. I thought the natives we abused by the white people because they had never had alcohol and got drunk to fast, no immunity. So I sent a message back, in thought , to get the natives to drink alcohol well to teach them how to make alcohol. next week I see a show saying that grapes existed in the americas and natives made a tyupe of ise wine. hmmm. I did the same with each dinasure races and other planets, creating race and peoples. one dinasure race had a dinasure like a cat with a long neck. In fact one dinasure race actually created star treck teck." Hpw does God change history without any one noticing it" voice from 98"This one( refering to me)creates starships" said a couple, old and grew after I looked up to hear a lould grumpling sound like a huge air plain and say an original star treck ship fly across the sky. before 98 I use to dream about making star ships all the time, playing war games and battles, love making , more romance, I mean my star ship teck worked. I use to dream of cars suing tesla teck that used cristals with metals in them that caused demesional and plain travel. The phone teleport gate" the new teck given to a few bright people to test out " voice 98 just as the appearance of the jump code on my phone appeared. it was based on theories i was thinking" we did what you wanted and mapped the world out so you can treval anywhere you want using your phone, you are making us work very hard down here, its hot down there( well it was summer)" ed said this. JMP&JMP. before 98 my mind was clean. I prefered dreaming of games then saesx, sex fantasies were for masterbation and boy was I a pervert. dirty mags since 5 baby. I dreamt of cars to fly into space since a child, I would build them put computers in them then I would kidnap my favourite women or ask her to come and fly around the universe.Sometimes other frinsds would be part of the dream and I would couple them up too. in about grade 6 I started dreaming about going to another diimention and taking my favourite women there and not letting her go till we fucked. this dream came from dr strange the comic book.after 98 I dreament of a similar dream concerning buses. I would build them comperterise them make them air tight and fly into space,. started dreaming about going down into saturn. the show magic bus appeared soon after. Buddha was right we creat the universe as much as it creates us, it is what you want it to be. Is saturn smoke and gasses, well science convinced us of that. I dreamt it was a lush p[anet with a shild over it to make it look as it did.Universal key baby. Dream like God. if you make it logical it will be in this universe. otherwise it is on another plain I have even created a board game called armagedom and it contained weaponsto a world I would not want to live on. wild. fun to play too, had friends who died to play it. played it a few times. Reality is a shared dream we make it what we want, yet scinece and religion are concrete ways to control the dream. buddhu says we all were globes, well globes of the perfect form of the GLobe.His story talks about one globe but refers to many.I think the only beggotten touched me as God did and I became his avatar. is seed procreative or dreams or coth.no i did not see the globe touch me, it was as big as me, in mid air in the center of the room. maybe it touched my mind?

From Buddhathe globes are interpreted as many because the word used by bhudda for people is man.but he might be refering to one which represents many. both works but that globe appeared before buddha or its existance became revealed to him.

no i did not see the globe touch me, it was as big as me, in mid air in the center of the room. maybe it touched my mind?if we are the only real things and the world is not real then what is real about us?valpraise the universe and buddha.

yes I am the son of the only begotten, bhudda force , enlightement force, bhuddha is also one with teh universe but yet the only begotten touched him and me. the seeds are the ideas, my ideas, I become one with the only beggoten, the bhudda forceI am the chankra buddha. yet they will find thier own chanchra buddha. Makes mahayian feel better.Yes globe appeared before buddha and touched him like me. valall I know is after the globe I could think timelesslythe globe taught me, why does it have to be that way, why not this idea? why not a different way.

when I walked with god I first described it as being taken by the spirit. I refered to God focusing Gods energies as universal quantum signiture.think, taken by the spirit? holy spirit. yet my God spoke as my father.valclosesee judgemnt, walking with God as the spirit( great spirit) and touched by the only begotten, becoming one with the timeless thoughts as it became one with me, all realised since I met you.vallast thing : what if when the parent God touches you, it is the greater touch(as the jews say) and one disappears or turns into a body like christ after the resserection?cool a greater event soon comes.during the walk with God i thought my parents turned into angels and sent their enegry arms and are holding me at the sholdier as we walked around. during the walk with God I thought my parents are walking with me holding my sholdiers like angles ( I looked at jupiter and saturn shining in the sky at this thought)and God sent his energy arms to hold me."son do you remeber what happened lastr night? "" yes" " I came over took you in my arms and we walked around our house together, at first you shoudered then you called me in closer, you took your ring and threw it in a garbage can in one of the rooms in our house. " no it was serbourne and gerald" well if it were really serborne and gerald your ring should still be there lets go look" " no i do not care about the ring, but it was sherboirne and gerald. "" if that is the way it was, (honest laugh) and father walks away."

Epiphetisissee when God touched Christ he rose, God as parent God. then christ rose to be one with the essesnse. epiphitis is what we call it.

All three are equal and great eventson mount tabore the only begotten came down and touched christ and the apostles all three are great events.there is the enlightment force usually described as globesremember christ returned to the father after rising and speaking to the marrys as an angle, hmm sounds like enoch the metatron.

Epiphetip[si tou augio pnevma.

profetpsy means becoming one with christ the only begotten, well it means to appear before the spiritremeber the koran was dicted by Allah( God) to mohamed so only God knows what it really means.Praise allah who is God and mohamed his9 one of his) profets(old testements and new has others.my walk in the park is becoming one with teh universenervana is epifetepsi, see even when noah died he become one with the universe. See christ got to save his body. now christ may have resserected himself first then touched by God. the epifetesis is after the resserection. hmm. why did noah die? because he iknew he should have been like enoch, yet he got drunk and his children thought he was dead, he got mad and cursed them because he thought he was beyond God because of his walk with the God. Yet God let him die to prove that he should not have cursed anyone because of his walk with God. it was so important for noah not to die that he cursed his children and God let him dieallah was right it was someone who represented the only begotten who was crucified, his avatar .valprofetesy means profesesyplacement of the holy spirit not planting, seatingepi means afterepiftisis after resserection, prophetisis before.



the virgin mary is holy because she was fair(just), " a holy and blessed womb"that is why we can pray to her. she become an avatar of God the moment of inception(she was touched by God). she had reached theosis because she saw uncreated light just before and as inception occured. a better way to see it.theotokos= christ mommy-mary( God's toko.) she was divinePanagia= mary magdelene (the all saint), she became a saintparthena= mary arethmea.( the virgin), she remain a sexual virgin and was the one christ would have married. the one who sat at his knees.all mary's are worshiped as one

valIn greek orthodoxy all unmarried men are all married to mary arethmea, otherwise we would be coveting Joseph's wife, which is a sinChrist's mother is a godess.

Remember that even though mathew says Mary joseph's wife knew joseph and had sex with him only after the birth of Christ, she is forever young, a forever virginall three marys share the same grace.all marys are worshiped as onethe word fetus coms from fetisy.

In Jewish law a marriage must be consummated. However one may not sleep with a pregnant woman. Thus, Joseph would have had to know Mary after the birth of Christ to obey Jewish law. We are adults and knowing that are parents slept together to produce us and this does not phase (worry) us. God is not cruel and would neither have made Joseph a monk nor Mary a nun without their permission, esp. since he asked Joseph to marry Mary in accordance to Jewish law. In Jewish law is a couple does not sleep together continuously through out the marriage an instant devoice occurs.Thus to be paradigms of a law abiding Jewish family Joseph and Mary would have had to have had sex together only after the birth of Christ. This fact does not change our religion it enriches it. In Mark Christ family accuses him of being insane (beside himself) and later there is a reference to Christ walking into his town with his brothers and sisters. Thus Christ had legitimate brothers and sisters from the union of Mary and Joseph. Once again no change to our religious creed. In fact at the crucifixion Christ tells one of his brothers, who was also his apostle to take care of their mother. As if he was saying you followed me but do not get depressed and ignore your family now that I am crucified.For Christ to be a good Rabbi, he would have had to get married. He would have gotten married if it were not for the fact that he became aware that he was going to be crucified and thus did not Mary his love nor sleep with her. Hence Christ left no widow.

I just realised it is the virgin Arithmea who everyone is married too.I ,like christ, would want to marry her, any women who would sit at my knees and listen to what I had to say is a women worth marrying. In fact, it is her I always compare women too. the next import thought to finish the idea off from yesterday. What I called the parafetisy is better called the panfetisy, cause walking with God is the pan. I would have called the epifetisy the panfetisy, however the name was already taken. Lastly at Christ's baptism the holy spirit appeared, enphanisis, and like a bird flew down from heaven. No one saw it, it is the holy chill or the pamfetisi: a fetisy for everyone who was present around Christ.Praise Buddha and the Universe





from the arabic( I used the dictionary and original scriptors.) the one crucified was an imposter( CAN MEAN REPRESENTATIVE OR SUBSTITUTE TOO) is how It is currently interpreted. However Christ called himself the same name as the only begotten and thus posed as the only begotten on earth. He represented him on earth. He was his avatar, avatars on computers pose for people, they represent them from a distance.

see the word actually means he who was in the place of the only begotten on earth.

Praise Allah

since the muslims are waiting for Christ to return for judgement I suspect Allah did not in any way try to ruin his avatars following or religion but was trying to explain a mystery concerning the machanics of Christ who is eternal and his avatar posing for him on earth.

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Judas was enlightened on mount tabor. He was a christ( an avatar of the logos of logos). He did not want to leave his master Rabbi( christ). "Judas go do what you must do, (go do what you are hired to do). " are you saying that there is a taitor here rabbi"( For i told you why i was hired by the pharees thought judas and I will not betray you) peter knew. (without saying it) Here eat of the holy communion you good man and do thy best to save me. To the pharasees he went and brought them to the great master Rabbi, christ. Kissed him in front of them to show them how much he truly loved and believed him. however the pharasees in charge took him away.

here is your payment judas, do not crucify christ for he is a good man replies judas. throws the money back and they stick the money in his hands. (I failed to save the master thought judas and angry and hurt at his failing went to a tree to hang himself with coins in hand. As christ( the only begotton [logos]) avatar he could not die so he thought he did not know to hang himself properly, thus threw his money into a fire(see revolations for proof of his redeamtion' throw your money into the flames and i will give you coins minted in fire' ) and judas threw himself in to the flame and God then allowed judas to die. well God allowed judas to die though he oviously prefered he did not die, otherwise the hanging would have worked. In otherwords God let the sad man be released form his misery.

praise judas( i shed a tear the day when I realised this three years ago.)





the greeks say you are married to all three mary's so they can mean you can mary any single women: widow,devoicy, virgin or ( from the Koran) orphan. Hmmm.



however judas would have had greater reward if he had stayed alive.

well a strong stance would be suicice is ok yet it is not highly rewarded. cowards get little reward if any.

however judas would have had greater reward if he had stayed alive.

well a strong stance would be suicice is ok yet it is not rewarded. suicide get no reward

this also redeams euthenasia and herikari

got it, see through your money into the fires means if you act like judas I will send you to the pergatory of fire and mint your soul into gold. Ya not a reward but a ounishment that redeams the suicides of those who do not brave out their lives.



Actual line is thow your money into the fire and I will give you gold forged of a fire. Well judas' scuicide allows us to say that through judas one who commits suicide can be redeamed and made into pure gold.

Not a permanate hell for the good people who kill themselves.(reward is still greater for those who brave all the adversities in life, like my soon epifetisis) Murder of one self is wrong yet if you are as good as judas you will be redeamed after a trial of fire or time in pergatory. redeams suicide and euthanasia. If in Japan if you can redeam your honor it is said that it is better not to kill yourself.

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peace

my epifetisis might take a few years but the enlightenment of all my friends who beleive in me, like mount tabour is next.



When I said I cried for Judas I mean I shed a tear. Three years ago a tear would have been shed but not today.

Judas was sent to the fires to purge prior to receiving his golden aura.

Allah was right Christ was a prophet as well, for he foretold of his return.

Lastly Allah was right war, murder and suicide is wrong. Suicide bombers do not go to purgatory, according to the Koran they go to a punishment place.

Val

Mohamed was also a prophet, for he foresees the next Noah, not the first one who lived in an arch but the one in our times who lives in a three story house.

Praise God and all his emanations.

I can be as hard as I can be compassionate. Balance is necessary.



Jihad is a misinterpretation. Mohamed says those who beleive in me will be protected by me and Allah. However, it was interpreted that since many were not muslim it was ok to kill them and wage war against them. Allah never said this, he said never kill and never fight. the word Jihad never appears in the koran.

Val



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from the arabic( I used the dictionary and original scriptors.) the one crucified was an imposter( CAN MEAN REPRESENTATIVE OR SUBSTITUTE TOO) is how It is currently interpreted. However, Christ called himself the same name as the only begotten and thus posed as the only begotten on earth. He represented him on earth. He was his avatar, avatars on computers pose for people, they represent them from a distance, yet are their sent image..

see the word actually means he who was in the place of the only begotten on earth as the only begotten.

Praise Allah

since the muslims are waiting for Christ to return for judgement I suspect Allah did not in any way try to ruin his avatars following or religion but was trying to explain a mystery concerning the machanics of Christ who is eternal and his avatar posing for him, as him literally, on earth. For the enlightenment of teh apostles on mount tabor and teh appearance of the christ logos outside of christ while still being inside christ proves that the only begotten is more than just his avatar, well the only begotten is God after all( see the trinity)

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Judas was enlightened on mount tabor. He was a christ( an avatar of the logos of logos). He did not want to leave his master Rabbi( christ). "Judas go do what you must do, (go do what you are hired to do). " are you saying that there is a taitor here rabbi"( For i told you why i was hired by the pharees thought judas and I will not betray you) peter knew. (without saying it) Here eat of the holy communion you good man and do thy best to save me. To the pharasees he went and brought them to the great master Rabbi, christ. Kissed him in front of them to show them how much he truly loved and believed him. however the pharasees in charge took him away.

here is your payment judas, do not crucify christ for he is a good man replies judas. throws the money back and they stick the money in his hands. (I failed to save the master thought judas and angry and hurt at his failing went to a tree to hang himself with coins in hand. As christ( the only begotton [logos]) avatar he could not die so he thought he did not know to hang himself properly, thus threw his money into a fire(see revolations for proof of his redeamtion' throw your money into the flames and i will give you coins minted in fire' ) and judas threw himself in to the flame and God then allowed judas to die. well God allowed judas to die though he oviously prefered he did not die, otherwise the hanging would have worked. In otherwords God let the sad man be released form his misery.

praise judas( i shed a tear the day when I realised this three years ago.)





the greeks say you are married to all three mary's so they can mean you can mary any single women: widow,devoicy, virgin or ( from the Koran) orphan. Hmmm.

All seven mentions of Christ are correct in the Koran if interpreted correctly.

judas would have had been greatly rewarded if he had stayed alive.

peace



Allah was right Christ was a prophet as well, for he foretold of his return.

Lastly Allah was right war, murder and suicide are wrong. Suicide bombers do not go to purgatory, according to the Koran they go to a punishment place.

Val

Mohamed was also a prophet, for he foresees the next Noah, not the first one who lived in an arch, but the one in our times who lives in a three story house.

Praise God and all his emanations.

I can be as hard as I can be compassionate. Balance is necessary.



Jihad is a misinterpretation. Mohamed says those who beleive in me will be protected by me and Allah. However, it was interpreted that since many were not muslim it was ok to kill them and wage war against them. Allah never said this, he said never kill and never fight. the word Jihad never appears in the koran. please see these sites for Muslim interpretations of Jihad that are holy right and in agreeance with the ideas presented above.







I am writing a text concerning theological precepts. It is unedited. I have found a way to unify Islam with Chritianity. I seek world peace. The islamic ideas are found near the end of this text, see below. I will edit the text after I receive all the responses to it.May Allah and Mohamed protect and bless us all.May medi and final jusgdement come soon and bless us all.

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ValPraise Allah and Mohamed

Allah Akbar My name is Chrysovalantis Petridis. I am a faithful christian.

I am writing a book on some interesting theological issues. I would like your opinion on the ruff work before I do the final editing of the text. Any suggestions? I am a firm believer that Christ was the most perfect of his generations and the greatest son of God ever. All my beliefs can be explained using the bible, the creed and the other great fathers of our church.

Can you tell me which great father called Christ a third Er? Please excuse any repeats.

thank you

val

God bless.

Please recall two biblical sections worth mentioning. Genesis 6:6 which makes mention of many sons of God and the daughters of man. Of course all the sons of God share the same incarnated son of God. Begotten not created and incarnated in Jesus Christ. There is only one begotten son of God, yet many manifestations. Adam is called a son of God.

As well, in the psalms there is mention of many gods who are ruled my the one God. All these gods share in the same incarnate force of God.



Please recall two biblical sections worth mentioning. Genesis 6:6 which makes mention of many sons of God and the daughters of man. Of course all the sons of God share the same incarnated son of God. Begotten not created and incarnated in Jesus Christ. There is only one begotten son of God, yet many manifestations. Adam is called a son of God.

As well, in the psalms there is mention of many gods who are ruled my the one God. All these gods share in the same incarnate force of God.





Elohim can mean God or god. It can mean son of God or better yet child of God( in the masculine). Finally Elohim can mean judge. If one synthesis these meanings, one derives what Christians call the son of God. This part of the trinity is God, is the child or son of God and as Revelations states a judge. Elohim is all these things at once. In the creed Elohim is incarnated in Jesus Christ. Elohim is begotten not created before all ages and time. Elohim is the part of God that incarnates in bodies or people. Each child of God is an avatar of that part of God. Furthermore Elohim can also mean angel. Each avatar is a messenger of the logos of God contained in them Christ , Adam , Enoch, Noah and the many gods, mentioned in psalms, share in the incarnate force of the one God and thus are angels. Christ speaks the words of God, Enoch brings a message from God to humanity and certain other avatars. Thus, the elitism of Elohim is that of the divinity they have reached or posses. This is not a political stratification based on class, but rather, difference based on divine state and grace. Evidently the Christians use Elohim to represent all its meanings at once. Christ's title of son of God comes from Genesis. Enoch is said to have metamorphosed into Metatron in the 3rd book of Enoch. Metatron is an angel, God, judge and a child of God, esp if Metatron is Enoch. We are all children of God though only a few are Elohim. Enoch spiritually grew up to become a Elohim.

The Talmud comments that God chastised the angels for cheering when the Egyptians drowned in the red sea. "Are these not my(God's) children as well?".Elohim may mean the mature children of God whereas we are all children of God waiting to grow up into adults(Elohim). .

Realisation of the Content of Plato's Myth of Er



As God was adam is due to his becoming one with God's etire essense, though since his walk with God he was always one with God, after his death in the same way Buddha did.. Christ like enouch became one with God's entire essence in their body. As God became adam became and build a universe. As Adam was we will be come and will have each one, as Morman said, one wife and we will populate our own plains.. Mormon did not repeat his message three times for nothing. As Gods was we will be come and as God became we will be.

Praise God and mormon and his avatar son Moroni, read below for a full explanation of what I just said above:



The world of dictators, bad ones avatars go insane

Hisler ‘s avatar Hitler, zoroasters nietz.